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Great piece. I am convinced the health care proposals coming from the Democrats are not only anti-Constitutional, but will further collapse the economy. It won’t be insurance companies that are driven out of business, but it will be all of us in one way or another. Unfortunately, the health of freedom does not seem to be a concern by those who are ramming “health care” down our throats.
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The arguments that the bill would be unconstitutional are, frankly, pretty weak. Mr. Connelly would be far more convincing if he cited the provisions of the bill that provide for rationing (yes, there will effectively be health care rationing, but there already is), and Ms. Orient would be way more convincing if she provided some evidence that outlaw existing private arrangements and contracts. I’m not really up for taking their words for it.
And, assuming that their parades of horribles are correct, they need to take the next step and explain why such things are unconstitutional. The assertion is nice, but what in the Constitution prevents the rationing of health care? Or the setting of medical standards and prices? You can certainly make an argument that such things are bad things, but these people aren’t making that argument.
Instead, they’re asserting (1) that the bill contains bad things, and (2) that those bad things are unconstitutional. What they are not doing is (1) pointing to the bad things in the bill and (2) showing how the Constitution prohibits the government from doing said bad things.
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Greg,
This is one of the most important blog posts I have read all year, including all the evolution and secular humanism haranguing at mormonsandscience.com.
Connelly’s words are very sobering. To those who might disagree with Connelly, may I point out that in my home country of Canada there is currently a debate going on over whether private health care facilities have the right to exist. Yes, in the past the Canadian government has squashed people’s right to get alternative, non-government sponsored health care in Canada. You start a private pay facility in Canada and the gov will shut you down! However, private clinics keep popping up in my home province of British Columbia. Now there is a suit going on and the Canadian supreme court will decided whether British Columbians have a right to purchase private care. This is the 21 st century. My goodness!
I’ll also add that as far as cost is concerned, healthcare costs are skyrocketing in countries with socialized care (so said an international healthcare researcher from Europe who has investigated costs around the world at a forum I attended). So people should not think that Obama care is going to solve the issue of rising cost. Also, Obama is not serious about controlling costs because his reform is basically insurance reform; it has nothing to do with reforming healthcare delivery which is where costs need to be controlled.
Paul was right – these are perilous times.
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Agreed with Dave that this is an incredible issue.
I have finally decided where I stand on this bill after having tried to look at it objectively to the best of my ability, specifically talking to LDS democrats who support the bill and LDS moderates and republicans who were against it. I’m glad that I was able to weigh both sides and see the arguments and counter-arguments on both side.
I have decided that I stand with Greg on this one. I am, by the way, a moderate.
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It is utterly amazing to me, that we as a free nation, is debating whether or not the government has a right to socialize us. There doesnt seem to be any disagreement that this is a massive socialization of us, so why in the HELL are we even arguing that this is bill has some constitutinal frame work.
The constituation was put into place to protect against this exact circumstance. You cant argue that becuase socialization seems good the constituaion allows it. PHOOEY.
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— “The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.” —
You sir are an outright liar.
I’ve read the bill and none of the things you mentioned are in there.
Why must people continue to make things up and distort the truth?

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